tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5285871073069940636.post3986091517385038626..comments2024-02-28T08:54:21.924-08:00Comments on The Kundalini Consortium: The Spiritual Journey Is an Active Not a Passive ProcessJJ Semplehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12739952761972950114noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5285871073069940636.post-44636722539207731662015-03-11T08:45:12.349-07:002015-03-11T08:45:12.349-07:00The more I "live" it — forty three years...The more I "live" it — forty three years now — the less I want to study it. Just let it do its work! Nevertheless, Neil's description accurately describes my activation, both in terms of my utter surprise on the force that came over (overcame) me and the learning to live with it. The Kundalini arousal and its aftermath lasts but a relatively brief moment; adapting to it takes the remainder of a lifetime. It truly had a "mind of its own" that included a complete plan for my <a href="http://amzn.to/1j0CGiw" rel="nofollow"><b>rebirth/regeneration</b></a>.JJ Semplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12739952761972950114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5285871073069940636.post-46095970738956229952015-03-11T05:46:09.248-07:002015-03-11T05:46:09.248-07:00If the kundalini is truly active permanently, the ...If the kundalini is truly active permanently, the prana that is let loose on the nervous system has its own inherent force and momentum. At this point, all we can do is get our ego and self-directedness out of the way. The experience of nirvikalpa-samadhi shows one all the earthly chains that hold us back. Then there is a process of successive liberation to free us from those chains. This lays out a course in one's life. <br /><br />I am not a Buddhist so I cannot speak to the Buddhist meditation practices. But in order to achieve samadhi, every attachment must be released in order to find unity with the divine. When we speak of an activated kundalini, this is all happening fast track anyway. What is different about nirvikalpa-samadhi is that the achievement of unity caused by an immediate and full kundalini arousal is caused by an act of will. But once that act has been achieved, and it is known to be quite dangerous to achieve it, the energy loosed is active within one's system. It has a mind of its own. It's why Krishna wrote that he thought he was on the edge of sanity because he was experiencing things that challenged his very sanity.<br /><br />Because my experience was nearly identical to his, I relate very closely with his explanations and descriptions. I am not a scholar in this area so I tend to see these things somewhat subjectively. In my case I knew nothing about kundalini when mine became active. I can say that I truly felt initially like one whose mind is flowing along an underground stream, pushed by the stream every which way. This lasts for years. Even today, after all this time, I still feel that all I have really learned is how to adapt to the forces inside me.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16049708119389998621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5285871073069940636.post-19587572615311371752015-03-11T03:45:39.130-07:002015-03-11T03:45:39.130-07:00Thanks for this Neil. Your description of mind ex...Thanks for this Neil. Your description of mind expansion and intellectual intoxication connect well with the experience. I guess what I hear you saying is that this represents the beginning of samadhi, and like most things in life, it grows and evolves from there. I'm currently reading a book by Master Nan Huai-Chin who approaches the subject a little differently. He seems to stress that many today place to much emphasis on the ch'i channels and how their opening is affecting us. By cultivating practice properly, we are emptying out what he calls the five skandhas which are form, sensation, conception,motivational synthesis, and consciousness. Although the opening of the ch'i channels are a normal result of cultivating practice, they too must be emptied out as they form a component of the five skandhas. In many cases, he is speaking beyond my depth, however, I sense a truth in what he is trying to convey. Question! Would samadhi be an experience that takes us beyond our obsession with ch'i channels and the effect they are having on us? By focusing to much on kundalini, are were creating an obstacle to moving to a true state of wholeness? Mehrudandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08747880528589650103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5285871073069940636.post-15187186451654162682015-03-09T21:32:44.834-07:002015-03-09T21:32:44.834-07:00What I know of is nirvikalpa - samadhi. Once the k...What I know of is nirvikalpa - samadhi. Once the kundalini is no longer asleep but activated, an energy emerges into one's body/mind from the base of the spine. This active kundalini shows as an intense feeling in the perineum, the feeling of prana moving up the spine and into the brain, and the perceptible energy of consciousness moving around the body with its own plan, transforming the individual. This is accompanied by a tremendous sense of mind expansion and intellectual intoxication. This lasts for several years but eventually calms down as the individual adapts and evolves. The ego in this case is like a cork on an ocean. The best thing for the ego to do get out of the way.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16049708119389998621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5285871073069940636.post-20381902997157856402015-03-09T18:07:06.724-07:002015-03-09T18:07:06.724-07:00I am trying to figure out if that new state that e...I am trying to figure out if that new state that emerges after the letting go of sensations, thoughts, perceptions etc. is what the Buddhist call samadhi. Any Buddhist writings on this are all so complex with their - if this is the case, it is not, but if this is the case, it may be. By the time I get through the explanation, I can only conclude that it sounds like it, but maybe not. Maybe its one of those areas that you fully understand only after you arrive there.<br /><br />Paul, I agree there is the perception of something active beyond self or as you have said in the world outside me (self), but I have never looked upon it as Kundalini, even though I've heard others describe it as such. I guess this is what I've referred to as "Presence" in my previous postings. And there is sense of a merging with that "Presence". As one steeped in Christianity, perhaps I put my own spin on this ( Divine other) with the Kundalini being more of a built-in biological process that renovates and restores so as to prepare one to experience this union more deeply. Regardless as to whether it is a surrender to "Presence" or "Kundalini", the results seem to be similar.Mehrudandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08747880528589650103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5285871073069940636.post-53732668376778765502015-03-09T18:02:29.674-07:002015-03-09T18:02:29.674-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mehrudandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08747880528589650103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5285871073069940636.post-34281680203957924362015-03-08T10:51:50.869-07:002015-03-08T10:51:50.869-07:00Very true and perceptive. It's difficult to le...Very true and perceptive. It's difficult to let go of ego beacuse one fears that the outside world, which seems so vast and 'other' will crush one. I feel that Kundalini is active in the world outside me, as well as inside my body and brain, in a way that I don't at all understand. However, I'm sure that when I surrender to Kundalini, Kundalini guides my petty path through the outer world, so that even difficulties and mistakes are transformed.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00552149362839746643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5285871073069940636.post-46591113913991082015-03-05T08:28:24.789-08:002015-03-05T08:28:24.789-08:00Great article. My reading lately has principally ...Great article. My reading lately has principally moved to Buddhist thought. They would certainly agree with your conclusions above (cultivating practice). <br /><br />I was able to resonate very clearly with your article on the questioning and examination of all interior phenomena to identify what is "real" from one's experience and what is unreal. I am never sure if this is much appreciated in my Christian venue; but if it doesn't ring true, I have difficulty accepting it. <br /><br />There is an area, however, in my meditation and later Kundalini journey where the phrase "no where to go, nothing to do" did tie in with my experience. As one moves deeply into meditation, there is this encounter with the wall of the ego which cannot be transcended through the conventional means of striving, clinging or grasping etc. By stillness and silence. it was only by cessation or letting go of body, sensations, thoughts, perceptions, and even other movements of consciousness, that a new level emerges (which can't be described but is sometimes referred to as being at one with all things). Even the perceived movements of kundalini and breathing seem to cease. As part of this emergence, at one point there exists this sense of "no where to go, nothing to do" as it implied to this "waiting" in silence and stillness, because you know that any initiative you personally take will crumble the whole process. In a way, it is still something that is very active. <br /><br />Enjoyed your article and the journey we share.Mehrudandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08747880528589650103noreply@blogger.com